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Is the Arab World Giving Up on the Palestinians?是阿拉伯世界放弃对巴勒斯坦人受到报应？

In an interesting piece in the New York Sun on July 7, 2006 (no longer available without subscription), Youssef Ibrahim writes a letter to his fellow Arabs that describes a changing tide in the Arab world with respect to the Palestinians.在一个有趣的作品，在纽约太阳报对2006年7月7日（不再可用，没有订阅） ，优素福易卜拉欣写了一封信给他的同胞阿拉伯人描述了一个不断变化的大潮中，阿拉伯世界与尊重交给巴勒斯坦人。 He says “a sense of reality among Arabs is spreading through commentary by Arab pundits,他说： "现实感，其中阿拉伯人正在蔓延，通过评，由阿拉伯学者，
letters to the editor, and political talk shows on Arabic-language TV networks” and that these “new views are stunning both in their maturity and in their realism.” Let’s hope he’s right.读者来函，政治谈话节目对阿拉伯语中文电视台网络" ，并说，这些"新的看法，令人惊讶，不仅在他们的成熟，并在其现实主义"让我们希望他的权利。

He continues on to write a letter, from the Arab world to the Palestinians, that is full of some great advice for the Palestinians.他继续以写信，来自阿拉伯世界向巴勒斯坦人，那是充满了一些伟大的意见，以便巴勒斯坦人。 To paraphase this letter would do it injustice, so we have posted a copy on Middle East Facts.以paraphase这封信都会做这个不公正的，所以我们都张贴一份拷贝就中东事实。 Click here to see点击这里查看 Youssef Ibrahim’s Open Letter to the Palestinians优素福易卜拉欣的一封公开信交给巴勒斯坦人 . 。

6 Responses to “Is the Arab World Giving Up on the Palestinians?”六反应" ，是阿拉伯世界放弃对巴勒斯坦人" ？

1. Stacey Says: 选秀内容为：
   July 13th, 2006 at 2:22 am 2006年7月13日在上午02时22分

   this letter that this arab wrote is enter bullshit… who is he to have the right to say this war is over… me i’m not even arab… but this is sickening to me.这一封信中说，这个阿拉伯写的是进入bullshit …谁是他有权利说这个战争已经结束…我，我什至还不算阿拉伯… …但是，这是令人恶心给我。 That land is Palestine not Israel!土地是巴勒斯坦不是以色列！ who are they to have any right to take it over, NOWHERE in the bible mine or theres does it say that this land is theres!他们是谁拥有任何权利接管它，没有在圣经煤矿或theres难道说，这片土地是theres ！ all this bullshit saying that the arab channels are propaganda?这一切都bullshit说，阿拉伯渠道，是宣传吗？ what is that… i personally have watched it and it is very well not!什么是觉得… …我个人都看着它，这是很清楚不是！ i jus can’t belive as human beings we are allowning this to go on… we all need to start seeing what is really going on in Palestine… it would be a big reality check for alot of people! i绝对不能相信作为人类我们allowning此下去…我们每个人都需要首先看到究竟怎么回事，在巴勒斯坦… …这将是一个大的现实检查了很多人！ and i no that Palestinians will fight till the end so if this “musilum” (although he doesn’t deserve to be called one) thinks it is over there is another thing coming to him!我没有说，巴勒斯坦人将斗争到底，所以，如果这个" musilum " （虽然他不值得被称为一） ，认为这是在那里又是另一回事，来了！

2. Jeff Says: 杰夫说：
   July 13th, 2006 at 11:15 pm 2006年7月13日在下午11时15分

   This person *is* an arab, which does give him a certain right and ability to comment on the situation, along with the unique perspective of being able to share insight into how other Arabs feel about this situation.此人* *是一个阿拉伯，而这给他一定的权利和能力的形势作评论，随着独特的角度，由于可以共享洞察到如何利用其他阿拉伯人感到这种情况。 You are not even an Arab, so you can make no such claim.你甚至没有一个阿拉伯国家，所以你不能再让这样的说法。 Let me ask you this: how is your Arabic these days?让我问你：请问你阿拉伯语这些日子？ Do you read/watch Al-Jazeera in the original language or are you too good for that?你读/观赏半岛电视台在原有的语文，还是你太好，是什么？ You can’t possibly believe that they, along with most to all other Arabic channels, put out foreign translations of their material not expect anyone else to actually read it.你不可能相信他们，再加上最能促进所有其他阿拉伯语渠道，把国外的翻译自己的物质不能指望别人，其实看过。 They different markets that they cater to, as do all broadcasting firms, and businesses in general.他们不同的市场，他们迎合，就如所有的广播公司，企业的一般问题。 Do you really believe that they would simply translate their original Arabic broadcasts for the American public to see all of the tripe that they push onto their Arabic customers?你真的相信他们会简单地将其原有的阿拉伯语广播节目，为美国公众看到所有的tripe他们推给他们阿拉伯语的客户？ Give me a break.给我一个突破。 They know that if foreigners heard what they were really saying that they would have a lot to answer for.他们知道，如果外国人听到什么，他们真正的意思，他们将有很多答案。 I have known several Arabic speakers and they have all reported that the english versions of such publications are tempered greatly from the Arabic originals.我所知道的几个阿拉伯语发言，他们都报告说，英语版本的这类刊物是锻炼了很大的阿拉伯文文件正本。

   I think the only person here who needs a reality check is you.我认为唯一的人在这里，谁需要一个实战检验的是你。 Check your naive levels - I think you’ll be surprise to find them around the 7-10 year old setting.检查你的天真水平-我想，你会惊喜发现，他们周围的7 -10岁的设置。 Oh and learn how to spell.哦，并学习如何注意保重身体。 And reading would be a good skill to aquire as well.与阅读将是一个很好的技巧，以获取以及。 I don’t know what Scripture you are reading, but copy definately covers God granting the Land of Israel to Abraham, and to Isaac, ultimately to Jacob as he goes down to Egypt with the promise that his progeny will be redeemed and returned to their land.我不知道什么经文，你正在阅读的，但拷贝一定涵盖了上帝给予以色列土地到亚伯拉罕和以撒，最终的目的是要雅各，因为他的花名册上，以埃及与诺言，他的后代将被赎回，并归还其土地。

3. Jose Dager Says: 圣荷西dager内容为：
   August 2nd, 2006 at 5:27 pm 2006年8月2日在下午5时27分

   The problem in the Middle East persists because since the State of Israel was violently created in 1948–largely by the efforts of the United States and Great Britain–the voiceless predominantly Arab Palestinians have had no where to turn to.这个问题，在中东持续下去，因为自以色列国的激烈创建于1948年-在很大程度上是由美国的努力和大不列颠-无发言权主要是阿拉伯国家的巴勒斯坦人有任何何去何从。 Many of these Palestinians were forcibly removed from their homes—an act driven by a “pseudo-religious” belief that Palestine was the God-promised ancestral homeland of the Jews.许多这些巴勒斯坦人被强迫迁离其homesâ € "的行为驱使下的"伪宗教"信仰说，巴方是上帝许诺的祖先家园的犹太人。

   It seems to me that nobody around Middle-East like the Palestinians and they were pushed to Lebanon.在我看来，没有人靠近中东一样，巴勒斯坦人，他们也被推到了黎巴嫩。 Well, sorry for Lebanon which opened their borders to welcome human-beings…..not garbage….好，对不起，黎巴嫩，其中开放其边界，欢迎以人为本… ..不是垃圾… … 。

   When I bought my house, I bought one which was on sale, I didn’t invade my neighbor’s house neither called my big brother to steel other’s people land………当我买我的房子，我买一个被出售的，我没有侵占我的neighborâ € ™众议院既不是所谓我的大哥哥，钢材等人的土地… … …

   Hope I didn’t hurt feelings….希望我没有受到伤害感情… … 。 but as a Christian I do not take a few paragraphs from the Bible for my convenience….但作为一个基督徒，我不采取几段，从圣经中，为我国的方便… … 。

4. Steve Says: 史蒂夫说：
   August 6th, 2006 at 2:17 pm 2006年8月6日，在下午2点17分

   In response to Jose:在回应圣荷西：

   “Many of these Palestinians were forcibly removed from their homes” "许多这些巴勒斯坦人被逐出家园"

   And many more left at the request of the invading Arab armies with promises of more land upon return.此外，还有许多遗留在请求入侵阿拉伯军队与承诺的更多土地后返回。 Most were NOT forcibly removed - they left on their own accord.大多数人不会强行拆除-他们留下了自己的协议。 How do we know this is true?我们怎么知道这是真的吗？ Because today, 1.2 million Israelis are Arabs - the ancestors of those who didn’t leave.因为今天，有120万以色列人是阿拉伯人-祖先的那些未曾离开。

   Also remember that 900,000 Jews were forced to leave the Arab world around 1948.也不要忘记， 90万犹太人被迫离开阿拉伯世界1948年左右。 Most of these Jews were welcomed by the state of Israel and were integrated fully into society almost immediately.大部分这些犹太人的欢迎以色列国，并完全融入社会，几乎立即。 Israel truly cared about Jews from the Arab world - the Arab world truly didn’t care about Arabs from Israel.以色列真正关心犹太人来自阿拉伯世界-阿拉伯世界真正不关心阿拉伯人，分别来自以色列。

   “nobody around Middle-East like the Palestinians and they were pushed to Lebanon” "没有人靠近中东一样，巴勒斯坦人，他们也被推到了黎巴嫩"

   Jordan also took many and fully integrated them into their society, the only Arab country, I believe, that did that.约旦还很多，并完全整合，融入社会，唯一的阿拉伯国家，我相信，这样做。 The result?结果如何？ 70% of the Jordanian population is Palestinians, living as part of society, not in the squalor of refugee camps.有70 ％的约旦人口是巴勒斯坦人的生活，作为社会的一部分，而不是在肮脏的难民营。 Jordan’s integration of Palestinians into their society should be a model from the Arab world (besides Israel’s integration of Jews).约旦的整合巴勒斯坦人进入自己的社会，应该是一个模式，来自阿拉伯世界（除了以色列的一体化的犹太人） 。

   “I didn’t invade my neighbor’s house neither called my big brother to steel other’s people land” "我didnâ € ™吨入侵我国neighborâ € ™众议院既不是所谓我的大哥哥，以钢铁otherâ € ™ s人的土地"

   Jose, with all due respect, this comment shows your complete lack of knowledge about the history of Israel.圣何塞，与所有应有的尊重，这一评论显示出你的，完全缺乏深入了解历史的以色列。 The Jewish National Fund purchased much of what is today’s Israel, from the Arab landowners.犹太国民基金购买的大部分是什么，今天的以色列从阿拉伯地主。 The land, before the Jews was swamps and desert.土地之前，犹太人被沼泽和沙漠。 The Jews subsequently (between wars initiated by the Arabs) worked the land and made it productive - and this is why Israel is the only country in the world that has a growth in the number of trees, whereas every other country is losing trees and other vegitation.犹太人后来（介乎战争的发起，由阿拉伯人）工作过的土地，并提出它的生产-这就是为什么以色列是世界上唯一具有生长在树木的数量，而所有其他国家正在失去树木及其他vegitation 。

   “Hope I didn’t hurt feelings…” "希望我didnâ € ™吨伤害feelingsâ € | "

   The only way you hurt my feelings is by pretending that you know the complicated history of the conflict, when it’s clear you know very little.唯一的出路，你伤害了我的感受是假装你知道复杂的冲突的历史，当它的明确的，你知道的东西少。 I urge you to study the history of the region before stating your opinion.我在此呼吁大家，以研究该区域的历史，才说明你的看法。 My suggestion for starting your studies is:我的建议，开始为你的研究是：

   The 50 Years War - Israel & The Arabs 50年来的战争-以色列与阿拉伯人

   The DVD above was produced by PBS and is the most balanced and ind-depth documentary I have ever seen about the topic.在DVD以上是由PBS和是最平衡和ind深入的纪录片，是我所见过有关的话题。

   When you’ve pursued your studies farther, please let me know so that we can engage in meaningful dialogue.当你追求你的研究越远，请让我知道，以便我们能够进行有意义的对话。

5. Jose Dager Says: 圣荷西dager内容为：
   August 7th, 2006 at 4:07 pm 2006年8月7日，在下午4时07分

   Believing in your good faith, I will buy the DVD and learn more from it.相信你的诚意，我会买的DVD ，并进一步了解它。 I’m not saying any moment that I agree with you, I want to understand your point of view and share the facts.我不是说任何时候，我同意你的意见，我想了解你的观点和共同的事实。

   The link doesn’t work联系行不通

6. Steve Says: 史蒂夫说：
   August 7th, 2006 at 7:53 pm 2006年8月7日于下午7时53分

   Jose,圣荷西

   Thanks for believing that I am working here in good faith.感谢以为我在这里工作的诚意。 The DVD covers the time before Israel was created to about the year 2000.在DVD涵盖了会前的时间，以色列设立了约2000年。 It is not done from the Israeli point of view at all - in fact, it is quite critical of Israel at times.不那样做是从以色列的角度来看，在所有的-其实，这是很关键的以色列于时代。 However, it uses actual video coverage from the days when the events actually happened and pieces the story together.不过，它使用的实际视频覆盖率从天，当事件的实际情况，并件故事在一起。

   I have corrected the link - my apologies.我已改正了联系-我的歉意。

   Steve史蒂夫

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